Recommendation for home brewing

[admin]

1) Controller

SYL-2352 is the most popular controller. It has Fuzzy logic enhanced PID mode and Manual mode. The Fuzzy logic control is very easy to use and can give good control results even if the controller is not tuned for the system. The manual mode is useful for control the boiling over problem.

SYL-2362 is also very popular for this application.

If you want a large display, SYL-43x2 is the controller to use. Please make sure to select the SSR output.

2) Sensor

PT100-L100NPT and PT100-L50NPT are the most popular sensors for the brew application. They offer a fraction of degree accuracy.

You can also use thermocouple sensor that is cheaper. It gives about 3-5F accuracy.
TC-K50MMNPT
TC-K100M1/2NPT
TC-K100MMNPT

3) SSR
The 25A SSR with heat sink is the most common. You might need two sets if more than one heater is used. Each controller can drive up to 5 SSRs in parallel
25A SSR
Heatsink for 25A SSR
A 5500 watts 240v heater draws 23A of current. It is close to the 25A SSR’s limit. Some people use the 40A SSR with heat sink for extra capacity and safety.
40A SSR
Heatsink for 40A SSR

[BrewQwest]

SCenario: Two 30AMP 240VAC circuits with a 4500 watt heating element on each circuit.. or One 50-60AMP 240VAC circuit with both 4500 watt elements attached.
1) Can I use one SYL-2352 to fire two different SSR's that will be feeding the two different heating elements which are fed from their respective and different 240VAC 30Amp branch circuits ? Or must the SSR's be tied to the same branch circuit which would then mean I would have to use only one 50-60AMP 240VAC load to fire the two 240VAC 4500watt elements?
2)Furthermore, could I fire 4 SSR's with each SSR controlling only one HOT side each of the two HOT side 240VAC legs?
3)Are the AL1 and AL2 contacts (pins 1,13,14) dry contact closures? What I want to do is use the same power supply source across each PID's alarm contacts so as to run the alarm outputs in parallel but I would be operating each PID with a different 120volt Branch circuit.
thank you

[admin]

1. Yes, you can. The SSR control output of the controller SYL-2352 provides a 12V DC signal that can control up to 5 SSRs in parallel.
2. Yes. Please refer to Figure 9 on the instruction manual. http://auberins.com/images/Manual/Manua ... %203.4.pdf
3. Yes, they are dry switches. Refer to Figure 7 or 8 for how to wire the alarms.

SCenario: Two 30AMP 240VAC circuits with a 4500 watt heating element on each circuit.. or One 50-60AMP 240VAC circuit with both 4500 watt elements attached.
1) Can I use one SYL-2352 to fire two different SSR's that will be feeding the two different heating elements which are fed from their respective and different 240VAC 30Amp branch circuits ? Or must the SSR's be tied to the same branch circuit which would then mean I would have to use only one 50-60AMP 240VAC load to fire the two 240VAC 4500watt elements?
2)Furthermore, could I fire 4 SSR's with each SSR controlling only one HOT side each of the two HOT side 240VAC legs?
3)Are the AL1 and AL2 contacts (pins 1,13,14) dry contact closures? What I want to do is use the same power supply source across each PID's alarm contacts so as to run the alarm outputs in parallel but I would be operating each PID with a different 120volt Branch circuit.
thank you

[BrewQwest]

Sweet!! Your PID just became my second best friend !!

[BrewQwest]

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A couple more questions if I may.....

your contactor part # CN-PBC302-120V
1) Is this a DPDT or a DPST contactor? Also, what are the dimensions (length, width, height) ? I am trying to figure how large of a control panel I will need to fit 6 of these contactors, along with other equipment.

2) your part # PT100-L50NPT ... There is an option for choosing a deluxe cable with this temp sensor, but I could find no info on what the deluxe cable consists of. Can you elaborate please?

thank you....

[Black Barn Brewery]

Hello,

I bought the SYL-4342 to connect to a control box that I will use to brew beer. Now I read that I should have bought the model SYL-4352 for the proper voltage at the output.

Can you tell me what are the differences between these two models and if I can use the one I purchased to make it work with my honeywell valve (y8610u6006)?

Thank you in advance,

Victor

[BrewQwest]

it appears the moderator(s) are too busy to reply to our questions, Victor.
So maybe we could help each other:

The PID you mention has the following characteristics:

The SYL-43xx offers two different ouput configurations:
SYL4342: This one has a built-in relay for driving an external electromechanical relay, contactor, AC triggered SSR, or mercury relay. It can only handle 1200 watts of load directly. If your load is greater than that, you will need this output to control an external relay which will then control your load.

SYL4352: This one offers a 12 VDC output for driving an external DC triggered SSR (Solid State Relay).

The output configuration can not be changed by the user and must be set at factory.

At the bottom of the SYL-43xx description page, there is a manual in pdf form you can download to see if your particular situation is included in one of the various wiring illustrations they present.

cheers!! -

[admin]

1. This is a DPST contactor. Please refer to the attached picture for the dimension.

Dimension_CN-PBC302-120V.jpg (29.04 KiB) Viewed 3987 times

2. The deluxe cable was sold out and it's not on the website right now. It consists of two cables. One is 8ft fiber glass cable with 2 female RTD connectors on each end: One connector is for the probe and the other one is to be mounted on the panel. The other cable is 3 ft long Teflon wires. It has one male RTD connector for the mounting panel and the other end is to be connected to the controller. The price for the deluxe cable is $9 more compared to the standard one.

We will offer deluxe cable again in a few weeks.

A couple more questions if I may.....

your contactor part # CN-PBC302-120V
1) Is this a DPDT or a DPST contactor? Also, what are the dimensions (length, width, height) ? I am trying to figure how large of a control panel I will need to fit 6 of these contactors, along with other equipment.

2) your part # PT100-L50NPT ... There is an option for choosing a deluxe cable with this temp sensor, but I could find no info on what the deluxe cable consists of. Can you elaborate please?

thank you....

[admin]

You can use the 4342 for the valve directly. Please refer to the figure 10 on the instruction manual
http://auberins.com/images/Manual/Manua ... 20v3.2.pdf

But it may be reset since it's an inductive load. You can use a snubber with it.
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_ ... cts_id=238

Hello,

I bought the SYL-4342 to connect to a control box that I will use to brew beer. Now I read that I should have bought the model SYL-4352 for the proper voltage at the output.

Can you tell me what are the differences between these two models and if I can use the one I purchased to make it work with my honeywell valve (y8610u6006)?

Thank you in advance,

Victor

[BrewQwest]

Another question if I may...
I want to use your switch SW3 (3 position maintained, 2 NO) to actually switch 3 wires (RTD temp probe leads) in order to monitor two different liquids into one PID. I also want that same switch to be outfitted with 2NC contacts (when switch is in the middle position) for a separate circuit utilizing safe start interlock features. What would be the part number I need to piggy back the additional set of NO contacts onto SW3 so that I can switch all 3 wires between the two RTD temp probes into the one PID? I believe I would need an additional quantity of four NO modules and two NC modules. Would this be correct and Is it possible to piggyback this many modules onto the switch? And again, what would those part numbers be? Thank you again.